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How the heck does she fi...I love the new clothes! <br /><br />How the heck does she fitht crime in something that looks like it could be ripped off in a fist fight!?<br /><br />Yes, she does look alot more trendy.<br /><br />BUT CHANGING HER HISTORY!!<br /><br />BULL CRAPOLA!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-46653052239710660012010-07-03T17:18:48.254-07:002010-07-03T17:18:48.254-07:00Oh dear. The horror...the horror...Oh dear. The horror...the horror...dpastehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10813652943621759603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-48895710003506645122010-07-03T08:34:20.576-07:002010-07-03T08:34:20.576-07:00Frank2: Thanks for the link. It seems the costume...<b>Frank2:</b> Thanks for the link. It seems the costume has generated lots of opinions.<br /><br /><b>Sisyphus:</b> Alas NERPoD isn't a history of Paradise Island. That will be a challenge for another day...<br /><br /><br /><b>Susurro3:</b> Right -- There are WW paraphernalia marketed to adult women [and gay men] with feminist or quasi-feminist texts. I was thinking more along the lines of toys specifically.<br /><br /><b>ROG:</b> I know, right? If I have common ground with Fox News, something must not be right in my thinking.<br /><br /><b>Mark My Words:</b> I think the jacket is the biggest thing in the way. If she had a red top (with the eagle (ahem)), the look would be more identifiable.<br /><br /><b>Torn:</b> <i>Then again maybe you're being an old fuddy duddy lamenting the degradation from some idealised past.</i><br /><br />Well, that's true for everything else in my life, so I'm not sure why it wouldn't apply here.<br /><br /><b>Historiann:</b> Just to be clear, I am not a fan of Bratz and their consumerist message. I thought instead Wonder Woman could be marketed as an alternative to those self-centered dolls. She could still have clothes, because children really like to play dress up. The overall doll, though, would be geared to fighting crime and using science (like the original comic). And I'd like to think that her bra size would be within human scale...GayProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289510184782252498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-23849074642606489502010-07-03T06:53:25.666-07:002010-07-03T06:53:25.666-07:00GayProf: Well, I don't know exactly how much ...GayProf: Well, I don't know exactly how much of your readership *has* boobs, let alone boobs the size of our heads, but they're the center of all of the action around my place. <br /><br />I like Dorian's rhetorical question: "Why does every comic need to be for adult men?" That about sums it all up. Sad. OTOH, the dolls that are designed for girls (Bratz!) are far from wholesome. Those things are also really inappropriate for children, IMHO--but then, I suppose they're just prepping girls for conformity to the dominant culture (dressing up for male approval, highlighting sexuality, etc.)Historiannhttp://historiann.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-89645609464112632742010-07-03T05:12:27.000-07:002010-07-03T05:12:27.000-07:00Then again maybe you're being an old fuddy dud...Then again maybe you're being an old fuddy duddy lamenting the degradation from some idealised past. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin ; )tornwordohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16581361982939423598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-64037429666663380902010-07-03T03:04:11.032-07:002010-07-03T03:04:11.032-07:00A little updating is fine but I would not have rec...A little updating is fine but I would not have recognized the new WW if I saw her on the street, they have not retained enough of the essence of the old outfit. My WW will always be Lynda Carter outsmarting Nazis and deflecting bullets off her gleaming bracelets. <br /><br />Thanks for, and loved, the historical overview!Mark My Wordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14412275349567306253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-37148230153861143032010-07-02T18:13:11.531-07:002010-07-02T18:13:11.531-07:00well, FOX News HATES the new costume - she's l...well, FOX News HATES the new costume - she's losing the old red, white and esp those blue stars - reason enough to LIKE the new getup.Roger Owen Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05298172138307632062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-35195078590064135352010-07-02T16:48:44.817-07:002010-07-02T16:48:44.817-07:00your comment abt the toys is so fascinating b/c I ...your comment abt the toys is so fascinating b/c I would argue that Wonder Woman journals, day planners, & calendars are marketed to adult women [and gay men] & are often sold in "hipster" stores or on lists of things to get your hipster co-worker for her birthday. Most of these items, as I'm sure you know, have feminist quote bubbles or re-worked feminist sayings under the images. Makes me wonder where the disconnect is and why.<br /><br />And is the new reboot closely tied to the issues related to the new film which have seen the character go from a fan driven project to a blockbuster dumb down. Will the Amazons be dead there too? Will her homosocial ethics and origin be replaced with big-eyed emo boy troubles? Will she spend the movie covertly playing eye-candy while overtly snarking at the male lead, whose toy will precede hers? Will Susurro have to get her Golden Lasso from childhood and rope up some film execs ... ahem ... who said that?susurronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-20683603776335699522010-07-02T16:33:33.459-07:002010-07-02T16:33:33.459-07:00Nice history of Wonder Woman! It made me wonder if...Nice history of Wonder Woman! It made me wonder if there was a good academic/semiacademic book on her and then I thought ---- could this be the content of NERPoD? <br /><br />I raise my eyebrow in your direction. Just let us know when the advance copies are ready for order!Sisyphushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09880634753539329199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-87956719019539937872010-07-02T14:00:23.957-07:002010-07-02T14:00:23.957-07:00The always-trenchant Chris Sims and friends had an...The always-trenchant Chris Sims and friends had an interesting discussion (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/06/30/review-wonder-woman-costume-change/) about the costume change I think you might find worth reading.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03301077496668834657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-89437239609629841652010-07-02T12:13:07.495-07:002010-07-02T12:13:07.495-07:00All Thinky: The enormous cleavage might connect to...<b>All Thinky:</b> The enormous cleavage might connect to DC's new title for the series: <i>Wonder Bimbo</i>.<br /><br /><b>Michael:</b> And he had a major role in <i>Babylon 5</i>, right? I'm not saying that's good. I'm not saying that's bad.<br /><br /><b>Susurro:</b> I thought the ellipses for "inspire to be..." was a nod to the multiple possibilities created by Amazons and we were to fill in the blank.<br /><br />Goth Wonder Woman feels so <i>Twilight</i> knock offish.<br /><br /><b>Dorian:</b> I agree that DC is missing a core audience for <i>Wonder Woman</i> in the "young girl" market. Why does every comic need to be for adult men?<br /><br />This translates not just to the comic book, but also to Wonder Woman merchandising (which, it seems to me, would lead to more sales of the comic book). During my other shopping trips to Target, it is clear that Superman and Batman have toys aimed at multiple age levels. There are Supes and Bats toys for toddlers, for elementary-school age, and for adolescents. Comic shops have very expensive toys for the adult collectors. DC has been savvy about building a multi-generation group of fans for those characters (ditto Marvel for Spider-Man). People can literal grow up with those figures.<br /><br />Now, I own <i>a lot</i> of Wonder Woman figures. With the exception of the 1970s Mego doll or the action figures that tied into the <i>Justice League</i> cartoon, all of the Wonder Woman toys are clearly designed for the adult [gay male] collector. If they produced a Wonder Woman doll (with removable clothes like Barbie or the Bratz), it could be a good way to introduce the character to a younger generation. She could have science/crime fighting accessories (e.g. Wonder Woman's CSI lab!). It seems to me that there are parents out there who prefer that type of doll (even with the swimsuit) to Barbie. <br /><br />In terms of the writing, I think that they keep changing her character because (for whatever reason) many of the writers just didn't like the character that much. Personally, I think that her original character has lots of depth that could be explored in a contemporary setting.GayProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289510184782252498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-16824366338955661792010-07-02T11:43:27.745-07:002010-07-02T11:43:27.745-07:00I'm more bothered by the origin tinkering than...I'm more bothered by the origin tinkering than the costume change. Some modifications to the costume were inevitable, especially if they ever expect a woman to play the role in a film and not look ridiculous for ninety minutes. And in any case, the classic image is the one that is on all the merchandise, it's the image associated with the character in the public's mind. They will eventually put her in something more faithful to that look, if only to keep the people they've sold the rights to make Wonder Woman mugs and t-shirts to happy. <br /><br />But Wonder Woman isn't that complicated a character, but almost every writer on her title for the last twenty years has felt the need to tinker with her. It's her status quo changing every five years that's holding the character back, not the core concept. I will continue to maintain that if they go back to making Wonder Woman a character aimed at young girls, not adult men, they'll find success.Dorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14754097613320749614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-24882474428048447912010-07-02T10:25:57.881-07:002010-07-02T10:25:57.881-07:00"inspire me to be" and "aspire to b..."inspire me to be" and "aspire to be" got all conflated in my brain just then ...<br /><br />PS. On Batwoman - it was great & I even have a pic of her reboot on one of my women in comics posts but it is my understanding that she has been canceled amidst criticism very similar to "seduction of the innocent"susurrohttp://likeawhisper.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/hey-hollywood-how-about-some-female-superhero-movies/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-80214601089871061872010-07-02T10:18:56.854-07:002010-07-02T10:18:56.854-07:00I was just abt to write a post entitled "In ...I was just abt to write a post entitled "In her satin tights ... Wait What?!" partially b/c I abhor the tweening of wonder WOMAN, complete with video game graphic ready hair and angles, but also the lack of knowledge abt her feminist herstory even amongst female journalists critiquing the image. <br /><br />Then I thought, I wonder what Gay Prof is saying & well, as always, you said it all. Of course, I shudder to think of my underoos as long johns & how unempowering I would have felt, itchy, sweaty, & without any amazons to inspire to be ... grrr ...susurronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-4814037986495663502010-07-02T08:37:53.518-07:002010-07-02T08:37:53.518-07:00I do like some elements of the new costume, but sa...I do like some elements of the new costume, but sadly the overall look is very 90's kewl. I'm definitely not a fan of de-powering her and killing off the Amazons. What's the point in that?<br /><br />JMS started off with some very new and original ideas in Spider-Man that I liked (S-M is my hero of choice, like WW is yours GP) until he devolved into some rather nasty business that did not fit the character or supporting cast. I have rather enjoyed much of his creator-owned work.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08345076657753826652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-1702131940598968012010-07-02T08:06:26.198-07:002010-07-02T08:06:26.198-07:00OMG the boobs. (I would ask what is up with that?...OMG the boobs. (I would ask what is up with that? but I know the answer.) <br /><br />I wonder if it will turn out that her super powers are hiding in there?<br /><br />You're a wonder, GayProf!All Thinkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974279037996747710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-79715718273285989022010-07-02T08:03:25.018-07:002010-07-02T08:03:25.018-07:00Blake: Don't you mean amazing Amazon historian...<b>Blake:</b> Don't you mean <i>amazing Amazon</i> historian?<br /><br /><b>Frank:</b> I don't really know Stracynski's other work, but he seems to have his fans from <i>Spiderman</i>. He is also writing <i>Superman</i>, so I have speculated that DC forced him to take <i>Wonder Woman</i> in order to work on that title.<br /><br /><b>Java:</b> Wonder Woman did show lots of skin, which might not have been battle wise. Then again, she could also deflect bullets with her bracelets, so maybe she felt a little cocky.<br /><br /><b>Jeremy:</b> I do so love the idea of a lesbian Batwoman. Maybe they could do a very special cross over edition with <i>Wonder Woman</i>...GayProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289510184782252498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-84027099273476289102010-07-02T03:16:20.367-07:002010-07-02T03:16:20.367-07:00You know whose book has been consistently good lat...You know whose book has been consistently good lately?<br />Batwoman. She's from the isle of Lesbos . . . no, wait, she's a lesbian, and its well written. I guess its actually Detective Comics, but whatever. You should check it out if you haven't.<br />As for WW's outfit change, I'm, meh about it.jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06313206057933336246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-6269545954637594632010-07-01T21:55:33.788-07:002010-07-01T21:55:33.788-07:00I heard about this Wonder Woman revamp and immedia...I heard about this Wonder Woman revamp and immediately thought of you. Glad to see you posting your thoughts on the matter. <br /><br />I have always been wary of how effective any super hero could be with so much skin exposed. They need protective costumes. Refer to The Incredibles for a good example of stylish and practical super hero costumes. <br /><br />Changing her clothes is one thing (I haven't decided whether I like it or not), but changing her history, her past, her heritage is something else entirely. NOT a good idea. You're right, taking away that power is unwise. <br /><br />We shall see how this pans out.Javahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17377033663576614925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-50647324365055071762010-07-01T17:38:56.073-07:002010-07-01T17:38:56.073-07:00I thought they were just doing a costume change, n...I thought they were just doing a costume change, not all this other stuff. It sounds TERRIBLE! And, yeah, I can see next year a big reset button. Unless J. Michael Stracynski can pull it off. From what I understand, he's done good comics before, so maybe it'll all work out.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03301077496668834657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16010478.post-54268215485963717742010-07-01T15:24:27.003-07:002010-07-01T15:24:27.003-07:00You are a historian!
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